that's key. 85 billion over the next seven months, including 46 billion from the pentagon. and the interesting thing about this, gentlemen, is that the cuts are applied evenly to every program, regardless of importance. congressman bishop, i know that you had some fairly harsh words to assistant secretary of state ashton carter, i think on wednesday, february 13. i want to play a little bit of an exchange you had with him before we ask you about this here. >> december was too late to start this question. had you actually been doing something earlier about it, we may have been able to get momentum that was extremely necessary. and i'm sorry, there is a lot of blame to go around if we actually have to have sequestration. don't think you're going to get out of accepting some part of that blame. >> but congressman bishop, on the other hand, general said that it is impossible to plan for chaos. your reaction? >> well, look, the problem with sequestration is it doesn't start with a level playing field. when we passed the stimulus bill, which is probably the second dumbest bill we